Karma Revisited
It occurs to me that Karma is going to continue to be a big deal, whether you and I are big Karma fans are not. Society is currently structured in such a way that we have to have a way to keep score in everything we do. For Plurkers, Karma is pretty much all the score we get, so it’s going to be hard to ignore. And, although I don’t think the rules are totally fair, the Plurk A-Team is trying.
I am a little confused about how they compute Karma, and by what is really important in that computation. I would think that it would be important to Plurk a little, respond a lot, and to gather a solid group of friends. Of those things, I would think that a Plurker’s level of responses to the Plurks of others would be most important of all. That is most obviously not the case, though. As an example, let’s take a look at four of my numbers:
Plurks: 227 Responses: 5356 Friends: 227 Karma 56.81
Now let’s take a look at some other semi-random Plurkers:
Plurks: 57 Responses: 154 Friends: 66 Karma: 47.51
Plurks: 141 Responses: 330 Friends: 98 Karma: 54.91
Plurks: 182 Responses:595 Friends: 264 Karma: 53.06
These are people that I like. I’m not saying anything against them at all. Like everybody else, they just show up and plurk. They have all been there about as long as I have. But the numbers above don’t make any sense to me. Even though I have had just about fifteen times the conversational participation that these Plurkers average, my Karma is not that far ahead of theirs.
I’m not sure what this tells us except that participation is not a very important part of the Karma computation. On my down side, I do not always have a page title on my timeline. I keep putting one in, but it won’t stay. When I come back the next time, it is gone. But I’m trying. Maybe I am getting unfriended a lot, although I honestly haven’t noticed that. I see and talk the same great people, day in and day out.
All I can figure is that very active participation is not factored heavily into the equation because, at that point, they figure they already have you hooked, so they don’t much care about rewarding you. And, of course, they are right. I am one of Plurk’s biggest boosters. I love the idea and I love the people. But I find the Karma formula to be, well, curious. ;o)
I’m KDFrawg on Plurk. If you see me, stop by and say “Hi!”





June 18th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
You are very friendly… for me karma is just an incentive on being some site.. that helps me in evaluation even me and helps my friend to evaluate me.. for Plurk specially i love talking to my friends as i usually don’t get opportunity to talk to the people as you get..
June 18th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
I believe it is a diversity of activity that helps grow your karma. I think if you use all the features and get the full potential without “gaming” then the karma will like you!
June 18th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Yes I have more karma than you which I doesn’t understand since you is one of the most active users on plurk!
But the karma algorithm is also about having fun and that people like your stuff and maybe that’s the hard way to calculate karma so it’s fair..
June 18th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Excellent post. I think that the Karma is what lures you into plurk and the friends are what keeps you coming back, at least that is how it is for me. I find it interesting that everyone is so into the karma factor. Actually it is kind of fun to sit back and watch everyone plurk over karma, either you love it or you hate it and everyone has an opinion.
June 18th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
@Rubab - I always enjoy seeing you on Plurk. I hope that your chances to come see us improve! And, to me, your attitude about Plurk is very healthy!
@MikeonTV - That would indeed be the perfect world, and I think the A-Team is closing in on it!
@JEGERPHIL - You may be right. Perhaps you are simply more interesting than I am.
@topsurf - It does seem to be the most popular topic, maybe tied with food. ;o) It’s fun to watch, and I am especially enjoying the struggle of the A-Team to get it as right as they have gotten everything else!
KDFrawg (the Plurkiverse dewd)
June 18th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Plurks: 85, Plurk responses: 320, Friends: 32, Karma: 53.08. Perhaps they’re using some kind of ratio.
June 18th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
@Morgaine -
All I can do is laugh. It is apparent that something in my behavior is being punished. The question is, what? I’m glad yours is good, though!
KDFrawg (the Plurkiverse dewd)
June 18th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Once I hit 50 and got access to all the smilies, I stopped caring about my Karma. Well, I really didn’t care before, not enough to make me plurk more. I was just happy when it went up and I got something. I mean, like you, it doesn’t make any sense to me. Looking at your numbers, there shouldn’t be any question that something is wrong in Karmastan.
June 18th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
@honest_ape -
I just think they don’t have the algo quite tuned yet. People are sort of hard to predict, and even harder to set metrics for. They just have some parameter, or two, set a little oddly. These people have done a great job so far. They’ll get Karma whipped, too.
KDFrawg (the Plurkiverse dewd)
June 18th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Oh, heck, I hope my comment didn’t seem like a slam on Plurk. I love them, and also have every confidence they’ll straighten it out.
June 18th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
@honest_ape -
No, not at all! You are correct in that it seems a bit odd, and you are correct that Plurk is at work on it as we speak! Like I said, maybe I’m doing something wrong and don’t realize it.
KDFrawg (the Plurkiverse dewd)
June 18th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
I think you’re one of the most interesting folk on there Mr. Frawggie.
My sole purpose on Plurk is to just meet people and have interesting conversations. If Plurk rewards that with Karma so be it. If they don’t, well, I’m having too much fun to really care. 